All entries must be received by giveaway end date. I've considered H110, but didn't know if it would be a good "all around" powder. Then theres Bullseye. That's not what you asked at all. Can't seem to find any load data for these specific bullets. Unique and Winchester 231 seem to be two common powders that show up under both calibers in the Hornady reloading manual. Indiana Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: NRA Member..SWCA Member..Semi-Retired, But Not Dead Yet. Associated taxes and fees are the responsibility of winners. with unavoidable grey area. Ive also never loaded a factory round into my Model 13 and had it shoot to point of aim the way I want it to. Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation, State Agency: Result of not working out is a kaboom and potential injury. A comparatively fast burning powder with a burn rate about the same as Winchester 231 and Alliant Red Dot. . (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Problem is I am using 125 gn flat nose Berry's (plated) bullets. I purchased my first when they first came out and our family has added three more since then. JavaScript is disabled. ballistics tables call for a muzzle velocity of 1450 fps for the 125 (Cowboy Action) 44 Russian (Cowboy Action) 44 S&W Special (Cowboy Action) 44-40 Win . Copyright 2004, 2016 by Chuck Hawks. JHP, 125 gr. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Unique: Select A Caliber or Gauge Below To View Recipes. For hotter .357 Magnum loads, any of the Hornady 158-grain jacketed bullets (hollow points, flat points, and full metal jacket flat points) work superbly well with 15.7 . Super clean burning. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. Addeddate 2019-02-28 05:18:26 Identifier CompleteReloadingManualForThe357Magnum2004 Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t22c6j49s Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 (Extended OCR) Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Not that a single charge would or could be bad, but, because it is so dense, combine that with say, your favorite Glock 22 with a heavy bullet and nowyou are going to have a problem. the original magnum pistol cartridge, was introduced in 1935 by Smith and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for maximum loads loads today have a limit of 17,000 p.s.i., whereas the .357 Magnum's is 35,000. We try 2 different powders, Hodgdon Lilgun and Alliant 300-MP. Nor with small hard bullets are you going to be leading free. the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. Thanks for all the input guys. upper mid, etc. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. For pure laughs, I love a heavy charge of W231 with a 130 grain lead bullet to produce a near-dusk fireball; but more serious recipes are certainly available. I'm not looking at any manuals , so hard for me to say what FPS , but for a 158 gr pill as you had asked about , maybe 1100 to 1150 .?? New York Department of Environmental Conservation, State Agency: As most revolver cartridges fade further into obscurity every year, the .357 continues to have new life breathed into it by ammunition companies and gun manufacturers who recognize the demand for this venerable cartridge. As great as the .357 is, it doesnt show its potential unless you start handloading it. Flexibility of the .357 Mag. Snuffy. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Can you do it? revolver barrel. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. Georgia Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: W296 is slow burning and needs a case full to ensure complete ignition. can be cranked up a bit in velocity with jacketed bullets for a flatter trajectory in longer-distance shooting and hunting small . It won't give velocities QUITE as impressive as H110 or IMR-4227, but it can be started at 10% under max . We dont always need full power loads and my more pleasant shooting loads are assembled with H4227. If I was starting out to load a magnum pistol, like .357, .41, .44, or T/C/Ruger-Only .45 Colt, I'D want Alliant 2400 to learn on. Imostly stay with gas check bullets in all .357 Magnum loads simply because they seem to shoot a lot more accurately. Some recommend 2400 powder. Result of not working out is a kaboom and potential injury. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants. No purchase necessary. 6 shots and point the muzzle upwards before each shot across a chronograph and 6 shots with the muzzle pointed down over the same chronograph. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. No purchase necessary. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. 2400, CFE Pistol, BE-86, Power Pistol, Sport Pistol. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM May 2023, P.O. I'm old school though , been loading since mid eighties , haven't tried the newer powders on the market. Id like to make the case that everyone who loves shooting should have a place in their safe and on their shelves for a .357 Magnum firearm and ammunition. Great powder for the heaviest .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum and .44 Magnum loads. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w/regular small pistol primers has become my favorite. It would be great if I could also use it for .44 mag and .44 special. CCI primers. Bianchi Speed Strips are a compact loading device for revolvers . Deployed military should use stateside address. July 31, 2021. By focusing on using it for multiple roles, you can save a lot on organization and components, not to mention guns, and youre not likely to miss a beat in efficiency or enjoyment. Load data is available for 9mm Luger, .38 Super Auto, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .40 S&W, .44 S&W Special, .44 Remington Magnum, .45 ACP and . A stiff .357 load is plenty of punch for a relatively delicate animal like a whitetail. That is especially true if you handload. Using a case filling powder is just an extra precaution I try to use in my regimen to ensure I don't double charge. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. .38 Special +P loads make Actually, that propellant is "too fast" but a-ok for reduced power paper punching ammunition with good accuracy. Titegroup is an excellent powder for target and mid range loads. Illinois Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (when required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. of True Blue, a WSPM and a 125 gr. Most likely I'll be loading lead bullets. I use 4.2 grs. This high energy powder provides economy in loading. But it may depend on your definition of 'full power'. Since I started doing this seriously, Ive only bought one gun, a .308 bolt-action rifle. Theres not a whole lot under the size of a deer that cant be taken using some .357 Magnum load. I'm looking for the best powder to load .357. (Photo: Andy C). ticket for many big game hunting applications and for defense in the I just checked my powders, and I have way too much Bullseye, and only a fair amount of 2400. When I began (starting with .38's), I picked up a pound of Hodgdon 'Universal Clays'. of what some consider a forgotten Magnum! of TrailBoss), (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), (bullets seated deeper = higher pressures) (I dont recommend lead at over 900 The .357 Mag is one of the most flexible handgun rounds. If you hunt in predominantly tight spaces with shorter sight lines, a .357 lever rifle is a wonderful gun to carry all day. Cheers! I'll expand and experiment once I fully understand what I'm doing. All kinds of projectiles, all kinds of usesall of them .357. Jul 22, 2015. 0 Comments. for the magnum pistol loads and for rifle. But, this isn't the best powder for 900 f/s loads. Pennsylvania Game Commission, State Agency: The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Something that might not handle a double charge even from it. same bullets to a MV of 1409 fps. were measured in a 6" S&W revolver barrel using Speer cases and They claim it is position insensitive but, I am not buying that. These are good full power hunting loads. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Is the .357 Magnum a rifle cartridge? Contest open to U.S. residents only. Hand loading self-defense ammo isnt recommended so well table that, but you can load up practice rounds that can approximate your chosen self-defense loads. South Dakota Game, Fish & Parks, State Agency: They are all determined experimentally. Contest open to U.S. residents only. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. $36.52. I'm just looking to load plinking rounds. I agree with @Knob Creek on the clays though. & Wesson as the world's most powerful handgun cartridge. The powders that are considered "Magnum Powders" are: AA#9, Alliant 2400, W296/H110, both IMR & H4227, Ramshot Enforcer and VV N350. 38 Special - +P 125 Grain SJHP - Remington HTP - 500 Rounds - Best Low Recoil 38 Special Ammo. a lightweight .357 or older gun, you may want to start with 13% less than A 50-ft target with the .357 Blackhawk using 158-grain cast flatpoints with 7.0 grains of Unique. Winchester 296/Hogdon H110 is a powder which cannot and must not be used for light metallic cartridge loads! With standard primers it's a little lower velocity (more like 925). According to Quickload .357 data using a .357, 158, Sierra JSP FN 8340. I dont worry about the power factor much because CAS threshold is so low, its not worth the tiny savings in recoil against having to compensate for a two inch high point of impact. Winchester Rifle Primers. (I) Giveaway ends December 31, 2022. Safety Warning: Andy C is an experienced shooter and handloader. I don't have any Titegroup right now or I would try it. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Factory warranties may apply in some cases. Free shipping for many products! In the late 1970s, leverguns chambered in .357 Magnum began appearing. (1995) Numerous magazine articles on reloading special calibers and To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. H110 and Win 296 is the most common magnum loads for .357 Magnum. Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. My most-used load these days in a .357 Magnum sixgun is the Lyman #358156GC bullet over 14.0 grains of #2400. I too have used Alliant 2400, it makes an excellent full/hunting load. It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. KE4GWE - - - - - - Colt 1860, it just, kids that hunt and fish dont mug old ladies. grain JHP with 583 ft. lbs. While these arent pleasant to shoot, getting mauled is worse. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Contest void where prohibited by law. The minimum charge of WW296 (H-110 same stuff ) Winchester used to publish in the re-loading pamphlet was 14.5gr and SP Magnum primer, under a 158gr SWC. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. Here are the features to watch out for. The 1:20 tests at 100, 200 and 300 yards proved that with a rifle length barrel, any commercially available bullet will . References: 2009 Hodgdon Website .357 Magnum loads Accurate Arms Co. 1996 Classic Browning Light Twelve Auto-5 Review: Busting Clays With the Old Humpback Shotgun. For plinking and target loads Hodgdon's Univeral Clay's w . It was not long before Winchester Model 1892s originally in .32-20 were converted to .357 Magnum. HP 38 is forgiving and easy on the recoil. If you are looking for a target/plinking load for your 357's I have found using 5.5 grains of Unique behind either a 158 grain LSWC or Rainier Plated bullet to be very accurate and pleasurable to shoot. If you want to download your .357 Magnum ammo 2400 is a better choice. Although a lot of factory ammo for the .357 is loaded light in deference to all those 80 year old guns out there, a full power .357 S&W Mag with those light 125 grain bullets (remember, the cartridge was made for 158 grain bullets at a published velocity of 1500 f.p.s. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. The versatility of loads for the .357 cartridge means that it excels as an all-purpose handgun round, suitable for just about every shooting activity imaginable: For recreational shooting, full-tilt .357 Magnum loads are pretty intense for extended sessions on both the hands and the wallet out of most revolvers. I also wanted a better finish than the plain stained buttstock and forearm so I had Milt put a real finish on the wood. They felt is was a dirty powder and so all your cartridges would . For most of my big-bore sixgun loads I use straight wheelweights for loads under 1,100 fps; however, with the smaller diameter .357 Magnum bullets I prefer a harder alloy and normally mix lead and type metal in equal amounts. I have been reloading the .357 Magnum since the middle 1960's. I have found Winchester W231 and Hodgdon HS-6 powders excellent for low and medium velocity loads and H-110, W296 and Hercules 2400 powders excellent for . Theres a huge combination of powders, bullets, primers and guns. It's a super accurate load in the Model 19s and the Model 27. They are all determined experimentally. It would (just) make major from a 6" barrel back when a 6 shot .357 could still be somewhat competitive in USPSA revolver class. Kansas Department of Wildlife, Parks & Tourism, State Agency: Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. The data shows not only the group sizes, but also the load recipes used with the velocities given. This loading breaks 1,340 fps in my four-inch barrel Python. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. No substitutions or transfers to third parties allowed. It has all the metering benefits that come with a spherical powder but has significantly more volume per charge weight than other options. I need to pick up projectiles for 38 and 357 for a 357 Ruger Revolver and a Rossi lever. IMR TrailBoss are products of IMR (formerly DuPont) Powder Company. Subscribe To GUNS Magazine. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. bought commercially (in the 70s). It is just a guide and the reason you should start under these charges and work up. of muzzle energy. These bullets have a cannelure. Thanks for your patience. NEI #200.358GC. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Aside from your .357 loads, you can fire several others in it, including the .38 Short and Long Colt and the .38 Special. For heavy loads, the Speer but only the gas check versions will normally work with the heavier loads. grains of H110 powder will drive the 140 grain bullet to a MV of 1323 IPSCs revolver division rules basically demand a .45 ACP moonclip gun, but in IDPA the speedloader-fed .357 magnums are alive and well. I'm probably gonna run off about 750 rounds, using hard cast 158 grain SWC. Remington's Nylon 66 semi-automatic .22 LR rifles have grown from 1950s bargain buys to 21st century collectors darlings. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Alabama Department of Conservation & Natural Resources. For my hunting / power loads , 2400. Instead I recommend switching your powder load to Blue Dot and loading up a 180 grain lead bullet. Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. Upgrade efforts paused for now. The same cartridge and rifle can be used for predator control if you occasionally find the need to deal with marauding coyotes and like to keep a gun by the back door. Maryland Department of Natural Resources, State Agency: I use it in .38 Special, .357 Mag, 45 ACP and even light loads in .41 Mag. 10 gauge. Everything DocZeus says.For your K frame , I wouldn't push it to max. Contest void where prohibited by law. Get Guns.com offers and news!! SWC+GC, 160 gr. I had Milt Morrison slick up the action and take the trigger back to 3-1/2 lbs. Sounds like things are going real good with the reloading, Chance. I love it because of how well it meters in my Dillon powder measure. This is a good load. ), (See note on Powders below or read all about various Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. section of the Speer Reloading Manual Number 14 Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, Altor Pistols, P.O. Smith & Wesson Model 586: Reviewing A .357 Revolver With Class. Vihtavuori provides load data for .38 Special, .357 Magnum, .44 Special, .44 Magnum and .45 Colt. 10mm Auto. If you had 2400 or similar powder you would be set up perfect for magnum lead loads. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. No soup can is safe. The next powder is meant for magnum cartridges using heavy bullets. Recipe. These two have always worked best for me. Rhode Island Department of Fish & Wildlife, State Agency: Made from a flexible urethane material. I'd have to agree with some , 2400 and unique . Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: GUNS Magazine, GOM March 2022, P.O. For a medium velocity load in .357 Magnum cases with 158-160 grain bullets at 1.58" OAL use these as minimum start loads and OK to increase a grain or so as needed to get best accuracy. full loads. Not only is this excellent accuracy, it is a . Its not exact practice, but it wont bankrupt you to shoot them weekly. If you have The best powder I've used, and I've tried many, is . I think I'll start with Unique. .357 hunting loads can be tweaked to take deer sized game and smaller. New Mexico Department of Game & Fish, State Agency: .357 Magnum hunting loadout. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. No purchase necessary. Bullseye, 100% burnt at 2.56 inches of barrel length. A series of targets John shot with the Marlin 1894, proving the accuracy When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I am used to lighter bullets for 38 SC and 9 Major but I see most of the people use heavier bullets in .357? . It looks like anything over 950 fps is pretty much topping out the range for this revolver. rickyd.41Mag said: HP 38/W231 is my most widely used powder. A Cold War era classic with smooth lines, a legendary back story, and an exotic-sounding name, Beretta's Model 71 was definitely a mouse that roared. If you find your way down to Rod & Gun of New Bedford Sunday you can try some of my .38 loads. . Gregory, I've tried over the years, if I was "tailoring" a load to a specific handgun (especially barrel length), to pay attention to the "burn rate" of the powder. Arkansas Game & Fish Commission, State Agency: Jul 7, 2011. Recipe for 230 grain round nose powder coated .45ACP, Need couple pieces of 38 SC or 38 TJ brass. More details in the thread in Tech Support for those who are interested. It has a steel core and will pierce an Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. 20 gauge. Alaska Department of Fish & Game, State Agency: Box 488, Escondido, CA 92033. An area where the .357 Magnum is under appreciated is hunting. (158gr and heavier) All will do a very good job so pick the one that's made by the company you like best, look up the proper charges and load up . When Im researching guns and I find myself in that fevered moment where I must have a new treasure, my most common check against excess is a simple mental test: 1) Is it going to do anything my .357 Magnums wont do? Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. 7. by 9.8 grains of HS-6. 2, No. 28 gauge. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Life is worth living make every minute of every day count for you. When tactical lights first came out, we all thought the 50 lumens they offered was astounding and could never get better. I just use a minimum charge of 15gr of 296 with 158gr coated lead bullets. Like Jimbo said you'll do better with two powders than one. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. That's with magnum primers. 32 Auto. What should the discerning collector look for in a potential buy? (IV) Winners must undergo a background check (if required) and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. I use both bullseye and 231 for 38 special. personal loads where noted. I'm thinking Unique, but I'm not sure. Ive never seen a 90-grain load in a store. You can add Hodgdon Lil'Gun for heavier bullet in the .357 Magnum. Some of the components John uses for the .357 Magnum for leverguns. Any information or suggestions offered in this article are intended to be put into practice only by serious shooters and handloaders with proper training and using safe reloading methods and recipes. HP38 is a spherical powder that is great for low velocity and mid-range target loads in the .38 Special, .44 Special, and 45 ACP. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. engine block. Find a book that lists loads for the bullet you will use. There are several good handgun powders for that use such as AA-1680, H-110 and 4227 and IMR 4427. I used 13 gr of Alliant's 2400 under a 125 gr. Bullets are .357 for jacketed and .358 for lead in diameter. (I) Giveaway ends September 30, 2021. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Is a VERY GOOD powder for mid range .357 loads but would opt out on this one for hotter personal defense loads or hunting ammo . You can. While the Colt Model 601 was the first AR-15 to be mass-produced, there were several design variations that came before during the platform's development. Full copper plated bullets are a good idea for .357 loads instead of plain lead. Utah Division of Wildlife Resources, State Agency: I highly recommend using 2 different powders to achieve the best results or those 2 very different rounds. However, it gains right at 400 fps from the 18-1/2 Marlin 1894 and puts three shots in 3/4 at 45 yards. I'll load a few trips to the range worth and see how it goes. Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. VihtaVuori Oy Company, reloading booklet Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. For .357 the old standby was 2400. . with bullets weighing from 125-158 grains. Deployed military should use stateside address. Free shipping for many products! The big advantage with the rifle is the fact it is not only easier to shoot at longer ranges but it also picks up significant muzzle velocity over a sixgun barrel. not in popularity or usefulness. Below, are three loaded rounds. With regards, 357Mag For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Newer magnum cartridges eventually surpassed it in power, but All entries must be received by giveaway end date. Arizona Game & Fish Department, State Agency: Contest void where prohibited by law. For the 158 grain JHP the MV Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winners. The armor piercing round was their 158 grain bullets to a MV of 1151 fps, and 15.5 grains of H110 .357 Magnum - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. What velocities can I safely work my Model 14 up to? When I dress Western, nothing beats the classic good looks of my Smith & Wesson (S&W) 586 .357 revolver. The benefits of this are twofold. If part of your plinking enjoyment . Trail Boss is an awesome powder for loading the 158 grain semiwadcutter to moderate magnum levels, retaining good performance and fun without inducing arthritis. Marc - accipere facile, sed sumite! Every cowboy needs a revolver. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Being used to SD of 12 for precision rifle I was taken back to see SD in the 50's for some of 357 Mag loads. I have used 2400 for 357 but like it better for 44 Mag. Contest open to U.S. residents only. use hot loads). The difference between the 158 and 180 grain bullets on the pins is remarkable. If youre looking for target loads on 38/357 than any fast burning pistol powder will work. 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Try this load out for yourself and after fixing up your sights, youll likely be impressed by the groups it can produce. 16 gauge. can also shoot all .38 Special ammunition. All rights reserved. Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission, State Agency: (Photo: Andy C). In Cowboy Action Shooting, 45 Colt guns are popular for authenticitys sake, but .357 guns are more practical from a cost standpoint. It is a special powder developed for Cowboy Action Shooters using lead bullets. Any .357 Magnum revolver Factory warranties may apply in some cases. (There are some loads for a 90 gr. Hodgdon Smokeless Powder. These days, thats saying quite a lot! This was written nearly 40 years ago and not much has changed. Some manufacturers make the 148 grain hollow-based wadcutter, but theyre uncommon and expensiveand not tailored to your gun. If part of your plinking enjoyment is testing new handloads for flat shooting and serious speed, the .357 is a cartridge chemists dream. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. Deployed military should use stateside address. length article about the .357 Magnum can be found on the Handgun I'll get there and with everyone's help here I think things will go fairly well. that can be adapted to all types of activity. (II) Limit one (1) entry per household; multiple entries will disqualify entrants.