However, many police departments do not offer this service. iflilimtT' ' f ^ I I I I< j 1:' I 1I'' 'J IM''. 11 M', No. IX-A.-This is the .45 ACP caliber, to which a grip safety was added immediately following World War II. Colt 45 mags work and this one was equipped with a Meggar, Max I C/F - .45 cal compact frame 4 .340" barrel, parkerized, blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide, Max II L/F large frame large capacity, parkerized, blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide, MaxII C/F compact frame large capacity, parkerized ,blue or tutone satin chrome frame and blue slide. Remington Firearms To identify the make and model of these guns, dig around the manufacturer . Llama 38 Special Serial Number Lookup Llama 38 Serial Number: RRR1941018.. The "M1" stamp on the frame leads us to believe that the pistol was manufactured in 1967. X. Mod. Largo (Bergmann) caliber. This gun had a change in the way the safety was made to the same look as the later model I above had. I I I I^.i I.I I I I^ I) I I I I tea* . So that should put it in the 1936-1954 catagory. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the 'Llama' name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products. The serial number is pretty low: 607179 Above the serial number it says "STOEGER INDUSTRIES" Followed by "S.HACKENSACK, N.J" On the opposite side of the slide it reads: LLAMA- GABILONDO Y CIA VITORIA (ESPANA) Any help with this would be very much appreciated. To get into BIOS menu, press F2 button repeatedly after powering up until BIOS menu shows up. The used value of a LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol has fallen $0.00 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $374.18 . 1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US. In 1992 Gabilondo y cia went bankrupt and was purchase by the workers forming Fabrinor. I've had several and the quality is suspect, at best. Jger Pistole Jger and Co. Suhl, Germany No. '^ ' I' 111 u' 111 g' p 111' i n. 11) ij n M i I' i. i 11 y i p 11111.11 p i ^ i fgsP, [PJjl'I'I'I'PJ.i ' |I|. 1 From the top navigation bar on our website Click Search by Serial # Select a manufacturer Enter your equipment's serial number and click SEARCH 2 From the participating manufacturer page Enter your equipment's serial number and click SEARCH Available warranty information will also be shown! Not much is known about the Llama serial number sequencing, so we are attempting to do a database spreadsheet. VII (or IV) style are known to have been made in the 7.63 Mauser caliber, expressly for the German trade, and it is possible that the designation of Mod. The frame is numbered in the normal manner for a gun made in 98 and you can see where the old serial number and proof marks were removed. Mod. Llama Pistol Serial Number Identification Lookup Llama Pistol Serial Number Identification 2016 MODEL NUMBER LOOKUP SYSTEM The Heritage Model Number Lookup System will help you find detailed information about your Heritage Gun. By your date code I bet you have the III-A which is not marked anywhere on the slide. Mod. It may be a special variant of the Mod. caliber, was issued along with Mod. I have now seen a 1954 with no rib, the rounded butt frame and large base magazine so it appears that in 1954 they started making the changes. This gun was made in 6.35mm, 7.65mm and .380 acp. I know the basic history of Llama but I'm not sure exactly what model we have. On the right side of the frame, Union Switch & Signal inserted double spaces in "M 1911 A1" whereas Colt rolled it out all crammed together ("M1911A1") and Remington-Rand, Ithaca, and Singer inserted single spaces ("M 1911 A1"). Last edited by nailcreek; 27th March 2005 at 16:01 . It seemed like the correct forum for the post as there were other posts related to the weapon already present there. Some time after the late 1980's. 111111 MI 11111 ml 1111 ft ml 111111 m 1111111 m' < J, !i*tiTtittiii7iViti'fiifi!t*iTftitiii>ifiiii9aitilifftlfit>fiifil>i!laiitItf2tliciiffiifiiti!iiiiliiiiVtiitl, No. I got interested in the baby Llamas because they were pretty well made minature 1911s. A LLAMA 32ACP pistol currently has too little sold data to calculate an average price. Llama actually started manufacturing these handguns as the Model IX back in 1936, this Llama IX-A was manufactured in 1984. On the opposite side of the slide it reads: LLAMA- GABILONDO Y CIA VITORIA (ESPANA) Above the serial number it says "STOEGER INDUSTRIES" I Gabilondo y Cia. X.-This pistol, in 7.65 mm. until they exhausted the alphabet, then they started with "A*2" and The photograph on the left is a picture of the right side of the receiver just above the trigger. Mod. Llama Extra with factory target sights. 1911. Feb 2, 2021. series guy said: 1980, 1997, 1980, and 1996. VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. Locked Breech as you can see in the photo below, 161mm overall length, 94mm barrel and 8 round magazine. Mod. After the war confiscated arms were separated as to good or bad and the bad guns were destroyed. i , I i 'l i I , 'I ., i I I ' fiM iiin.l.,3! Short version of the Mod. Browning Short caliber, heavier than Mod. Blow back operated, 5 shot mag,2 3/8" barrel, 4 3/4" overall length, 13 3/4oz. In 1931 it was decided to modernize their line by undertaking the manufacture of the external hammer, recoil-operated system originally designed by Browning and used by Colt and the Fabrique Nationale. It has been suggested that the name Modello IV may have been reserved for the Tauler pistol which is identical to it. This tells you the gun's maker. This Spanish Llama model IX-A is a single action, semi-automatic pistol that is chambered for the.45 ACP cartridge. The rear sight became adjustable with a screw for windage. This gun does not have the grip safety and has a serial number lower than any Bufalo I have ever seen making me wonder if it was actually a forerunner to the Bufalo instead of being made afterward. This handgun comes with one 6-round magazine. Parabellum, 9 mm. Check the sticker label on the warranty card. This was prior to the 68 GCA so no import marks were required along with the fact that Interarms was a CIA operation. This is purely a conjecture. It appears to be identical to Mod. Mod. While in the Photograph on the right the slide is stamped LLAMA CAL. The gun shown is a 1952. On the plus side, every marking on a firearm will help to tell us its history and this importers mark is no different. I strongly suspect that Gabilondo y Cia started a continuous one ascending number system from the point where they adopted the Llama name (early 1930s?). I will change the designation on the database list. 1911A1 Colt. Fully recoil-operated Llama pistols of the Mod. The letter for the date code with the asteriskon top is still in use to this very day. Shortly after the production of this first model, a blowback style based upon the external shape of the Colt-Browning was introduced. VI may have been given to these pistols. On that pistol it will probably be a letter followed by a number, with an * between. 9 (U.S. 323 7.65 mm. Basically N Frame versions of the stocks on your 14-4. 1 , imIm Miilii'iMiliinliiiiliinliiMlMl'liililimlllMllllillllilMliliilimli TmIi i'I i m 11 i i m I i i i Ii i m i m i m^I 1 i i Iii m Ii 11 il i i m( i m i i r i n I (111 Ii t u' 1 i m li i n ! ] (barrel has a barrel link like a 1911). I recently purchased a used 12 ga. semi-auto "Luigi Francia (not Franchi) Brescia" per engraving on receiver and barrel. It was produced from 1936 and was still made in 1953 but does not appear in 1955 factory literature. Mod. Just trying to help!! It is still in production. A further improvement of the blowback pattern was undertaken and this second blowback style was issued from 1935 on. Its headquarters were in Eibar in the Basque Country, Spain, but they also had workshops during different times in Elgoibar and Vitoria. Barrel length is 5 1/2" This gun has an internal extractor like the Colt. s U i'*i* V k I ! Stoger as a firearms importer went out of buisness long ago, The name is used today by a publishing company. Beristain y Cia of Eibar, between the years of 1916 and 1920 received patents for improvements to the Browning 1910, patent No. This addition seems to have been the first application of a grip safety to a Llama pistol and was introduced prior to World War II. In actuality there is no difference in the model VII M&P and the VIII M&P except for the markings. I suppose in an effort to reduce costs they decided not to use the locked breech system found on earlier guns. The Spanish government set up a proof house in Eibar starting in 1923. Early versions of this gun were marked as Military and Police on the right side with 9mm Bergman 38 Superon the front of the slide. 330 7.65 mm. This handgun sports both a checkered front and back straps as well as walnut wood grips. and was also made in 9mm P. During WWII England purchased these in 9mm Pto be dropped by the SAS to partisans in Poland and other countries. There have been reports that this gun ceased production in 35 because of faults, but it did not. Sometimes the mark is on the left side below the slide release. Mod. A Model X-1 has been noted, but details are unknown. A Note About Vintage Guns. It resembles the Star model H. This particular gun was not marked Model Police on the right side of the slide. This intriguing book focuses on the ninja's techniques and training. 3 <1r~ijT-iI '7 I I ri I ,'lfTT'l U| .Hl .Tin irMWi n ft j 111 iTiTTln 1 r 11 Tl Mt 1111 f 11 ill t tl< iTf la 111 l*i>l I ill 1M11 Ii f Inl7i tl I ill iTTlnill III >i I iliiftillllirtaiBlln llllTll 11111 III I 'illilli, No. ELOEIBAR (ESPANA)and be marked with the caliber of the handgun such as CAL. Largo (Bergmann) and .38 ACP calibers. Known as a Modelo Extra. You still pay the normal price, our commission comes from their profit, so you have nothing to lose, while we have something to gain. On the right side just below the serial number is G.C in a circle. L. Selbstladcr' Wood grip pieces on pistols made for military use, Fr. 111 h 111 ' I ' I ' 11111 ' H | ' 1111111 ' 1111. 'Le Secours' Marketed by Garate, Anitua y Cia. The serial number is 563842 which I *think* puts production somewhere around 1970-ish. Mod. The LF which stands for long frame came in a variety of finishes, but never Stainless Steel as may be claimed. The trigger guard is shaped for a better two-hand hold, and the sights are fixed. I'll take and post photos if that will help. Your help is appreciated. *f j : 11: t i : ' : ' i?. It has a double grip safety. I found this pic in my files and I have no idea where it came from. |i 111111 ! It was my understanding that these guns were made in 1997 only, but this one was made in 2001 and is chrome plated. r^j ,.', (TTr1! Leonhardt H. M. Gering and Co. Arnstadt, Germany No. I do not know if it is because of the double stamping that has occurred with these marks or some other factor, but there is no letter P inside of this mark on the above pistol. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 45680 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46306 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46883 Model II - 380 ACP - 1943 - 70989 Model I - 32 ACP - 1943 - 72994 (German GECO marked) Model II - 380 ACP - 1944 - 78290 Model I - 32 ACP - 1944 - 84482 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1944 - 89123 Model IIIA - 380 ACP - (don't have year handy) - 739813. Archivo Municipal de Eibar records show that Iraola Salaverria y Cia only produced 10,000 guns total and Hijos de Angel Echeverria y Cia produced 154,000. This gun, manufactured in 1980, is blow back operated. I have only seen one actual IX .45 for sale anywhere and I do not own one to show a pic. With N date code manufactured in 1942. Present day handguns will show a slide marking with either LLAMA CAL. It looks like all but the 25-2 are sporting their original stocks. 1911. If it has a copyright let me know and I will remove it. Mod. For some reason this first model produced later was designated Model IV. Llama Firearms Serial Number Lookup Automatic pistols made by Gabilondo from 1914 to 1933 were based on Browning F.N. 331 7.65 mm. 2.5 2.5 out of 5 stars (6) $47.99 $ 47. Cross section of typical Llama pistols. Grips Compatible with Llama XV 22RF XA IIIA 32 380 ACP (Reproduction Work) Made & Shipped from Thailand. This is in addition to the retail price of the gun and shipping costs. This pistol is in good condition and comes with one magazine. *f j : 11: t i : ' : ' i?. This is all based on my research online but I'm certainly not 100%. Serial number has been in two different places also. |I|'|II JI|i|IH|'ll|'l'ji PPI'I'PI'I Jl|'|ll'|'l'l'l'ji|l|l I I|' ' . The guns were actually purchased by Les Ouvriers Reunies and from there went to the French gvernment. It just looks almost brand new with almost no wear. Larry Well Larry, Thanks so much for the help! This pistol is still made. Mod. 'Systema La Lira' Marketed by Garate, Anitua y Cia. 175). The problem I am having is that the D says its made in 1931 but the pictures for this gun say they started manufacture in 1933. Enter the serial number (no spaces) of your firearm and click on Search to identify your model. 33206, m'l'ly ' 1 111 ' |' 111' i ' 111111 |'|i|'i'jili|i|i|i|i|i|ij'i' I' 111.1.1 in | Ijlj'll 1' 1' 'j'' m i' |' i' i' m |' i' i' i' 11111 m ij i 11111 11111111 ij i111ii11111 1I1111111111111, ii i iTl i < i J. t mii i 11 n in it !i i m It i kIii nlirti ti i iTliitilit Mlntt liiniitulimli into'! t i'^' 11 till t l^lll 11 ll nTi f r 11 In iTl 111! There are no Llama pistols designated as Models XII, XIII, and XIV as these designations have been reserved for and are used on the Llama revolvers. By the end of the war it is thought that Gabilondo alone produced from 250,000 to 300,000 pistols. From what I found it looks to be a Llama III. Llama Mod. VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. 325 7.65 mm. IV.-This was the original Llama pistol, dating from 1931-32, in 9 mm. 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