NAMELESS on the other hand is close to being post Fate route Shirou in general. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. However, Shirou declines, proclaiming that he will do all he can to avoid becoming Archer. Is Shirou destined to become Archer? It was always a thing that fucked my mind, in Fate route the Archer never tries to kill Shirou even sacrifices to save him, saber and Rin. The last scene of the anime only lets us know that while he followed Archers steps, he still went further with his life, in other words, he surpasses Archer's way of life. But they’re far from the whole. The lines … He doesn't, but he could... but he doesn't. Granted, he is copying Archer's style and Archer made him realize the structures of his Reality marble, but he fought for himself. As a result, Shirou and Archer prepare to engage each other in battle. As Mr. Kurvilla explains, “standard” PTSD and survivor’s guilt are a part of it. Nasu said in interview that Archer IN ALL ROUTES is from a very similar timeline to FATE ROUTE but he failed to save saber. Unlimited Blade Works is one of the routes in Fate/stay night.. [81] UBW route Archer(shirou from Fate route) tries to kill Shirou, now he remembers his memories but lies about It. Specially HF where the Shadow just took a bigger priority for him as he noticed how dangerous it is to leave it like if it were nothing. He was rescued by Kiritsugu Emiya, who was dejected after indirectly causing the fire and, wishing to actually \"save\" someone for the first time in his life, res… S2, Ep3. - "/a/ - Anime & Manga" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of Japanese animation and manga. As has been said already, little would change that is actually significant. | Creator | ignoreme | deletthis. While the Ufotable Unlimited Blade Works series generated multiple questions regarding Shirou becoming his future self, the warrior Archer. Especially a tricky writer like Nasu, who was probably expecting people to wonder how Shirou could project something he'd never seen, why he would "pull a shield from the hill" when he projects things from himself, and who probably expected people to nod in comprehension on finding out that Archer is nearby and note that yes, Emiya Shirou did project a shield, (that clever bastard). Hi, I'm a bot for linking direct images of albums with only 1 image, Source | Why? She was touching it nervously and puts it there as a goodbye. May 23, 2015 () After the end of each of the three routes in Fate/stay night, the possibility for Shirou to become Archer still exists, but the chance is it happening is close to zero. This theory IS from a YouTube comment. In the end they'll succeed and Sakura will be free from the Matou household, and all of that is canon, said by Nasu... now we need him to write all that shit down and hope for ufotable to make an anime or movie/s. he lives the rest of his life with Rin and that the last scene is simply showing that he follow his ideal to become a superhero and help people, but without making a contract with a World. Shirou describes it as a suggestion to change himself and the words that will \"connect Shirou Emiya\". Everything that Archer can make. What? Despite losing Saber, Shirou is determined to fight. And two, during their fight, Shirou saw a significant amount of Archer's memories. Shirou now knows his destiny and becomes a hero with no contract with the humans will. The beginning of the prologue is actually from his perspective. Shirou becomes a CG after UBW? In the true ending, Shiro takes a path similar to Archer but instead of becoming a jaded bitter anti-hero ,he never gives up his ideals and and meets Saber in Avalon to be with her forever and all eternity. Fair warning: this question touches on the core themes and structure of FSN, so the answer is going to be long. At the end of the manuscript Rin puts her amulet in a box. Also in Unlimited Blade Works, after the fight concluded between Shirou and Gilgamesh, Archer shot Gil in the head and amicably told Rin his good byes. From what I put together from just finish watching this show is Shirou can never become Archer instead Archer is a hero from the future that is indeed Shirou himself, hence in the beginning why they don't like each other so much, but at the same time they irate one another but the younger one is fonder of the older one. Its only that in UBW is where he gets more pissed of after all the stuff that happened with caster in the others he just didnt have time to try anything. The great fire caused by the contents of the Holy Grail spilling out at the end of the Fourth Holy Grail War killed both his parents and left him mortally wounded within the blaze. Ten years before the start of Fate/stay night, Shirou was an ordinary boy living with his parents in Shinto. 2015 A Legendary Showdown. Left with no other option, they set out to find Illyasviel and Berserker. HF route Archer (shirou from UBW route) does not care about Shirou, even gives him his arm. He could've found the Aius from either of those. Slight Hollow Ataraxia Spoilers. The player must complete the Fate scenario before being able to enter Unlimited Blade Works. The scene is more metaphorical than physical. He was injured by Saber at the beginning so he was spending most of his time recovering, 2. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the fatestaynight community. I always have on my mind that he lives the rest of his life with Rin and that the last scene is simply showing that he follow his ideal to become a superhero and help people, but without making a contract with a World, but making some researches i find some people here saying that he still become a CG, I honestly don't believe on that, several scenes imply that Rin don't let that happen and live a happy life with him until the end of both. Then Nasu says it means Shirou won't become Archer as he doesn't have the amulet. 18 Apr. UBW Spoiler I always have on my mind that he lives the rest of his life with Rin and that the last scene is simply showing that he follow his ideal to become a superhero and help people, but without making a contract with a World, but making some researches i find some people here saying that he still become a CG In HF, Archer's arm is pretty much doing all the job. The sad goodbye symbolises her goodbye to the other Archer, the one that was her servant in the war. Maybe the Grail wiped his memory to unable him from fucking up his time paradox, Shirou here never finds saber in avalon and does not know what the destiny has to offer. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Cookies help us deliver our Services. One of biggest argues that i saw is that he makes the contract but don't let the life of a CG destroys himself, but i can't see on that way. Their chants differ slightly due to the different experiences in their respective lives. Press J to jump to the feed. So, to people who think in opposite way, you have a decent and solid argue that is not simply based on the last scene of the anime or ''multiverse bro''? Like the other comment said, Archer is from a timeline similar to the Fate route, but Nasu said that something major was missing, and that Archer failed to save Saber at the end. Shirou becomes CG only in a alternative universe of Fate route where he fails in save Saber heart, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the fatestaynight community. The beginning of the prologue is actually from his perspective. Ultimately Archer followed a flawed ideology and hence his “stopping point” was before Shirou’s, as UBW Shirou is able to accept that he can’t save everyone. With the witch growing ever more powerful, Rin and Archer determine she is a threat that must be dealt with at once. Caster or Kirei wins. There are some small changes in the personality of archer between each arch that seem to support this. The reason that Archer goes through with it in UBW is, IIRC, because he sees Shirou charging in in a way that he never really does in Fate or HF, and it makes Archer more annoyed with him. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Rin and Shirou will travel the world together, having adventures, helping people, and probably fighting terrorists and evil magi; a couple of years later, they'll help Waver to dismantle the Grail in Fuyuki, in a huge civil war conflict between them, Zouken and different factions of The Mage's Association. (This is my personal theory) Archer wanted Shirou to succeed at saving Saber this time, and for this reason he keeps giving Shirou good advice on how to use his powers even though Archer has an innate dislike of Shirou. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. 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